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  2. Sappho

    Lime Scooters

    Don't forget that here in NZ we can't sue anyone for causing injury We apparently gave up the right to sue way back when Rob was in control. In return he gave us the ACC - a fairer system to the injured party - yeah right! 3 Billion is it? ACC have an estimated three (3) Billion NZ Dollars in their bank account! Levy Payers money that should be used to rehabilitate injured people to same level prior to injury Its not happening! There are still hundreds and hundreds (1000's to be honest) of genuinely injured individuals in NZ that end up being assisted by WINZ when ACC declines claim or interferes with assessment process to exit claimant from their rightful entitlements way before client actually medically fit and no longer requires help from acc! ACC merely transfers their obligations to winz. ACC is funded by a Compulsory ACC Levy on just about everything in NZ which nearly everyone pays in some way or another WINZ is funded by the NZ Tax Payer. The NZ Tax payer is helping the ACC get richer and richer Meanwhile WINZ is always asking the NZ Govt for money to help keep going We're actually paying to be compulsorily covered in two ways. eh
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    Lime Scooters

    Found this excellent opinion on another site that I need to share with everyone The writer is Chris https://www.neighbourly.co.nz/message/view/55722440 I hope the writer will consider joining this forum and sharing his views and opinions about, not only Lime Scooters but ACC as well. ACC operates on a No Fault system. To cut to the chase, it's the NZ ACC Levy Payers that foot the injury bills including E.R.C (earning related compensation) My opinion is that if a product and or service used in NZ is proved/known to cause any level of injury, the importer/manufacturer/service provider should be required to pay a huge percentage of the cost of the ACC claim and charge their clients/customers extra money which goes direct to the ACC Levy Payers fund/account to off-set costs associated with the injury causing whatever. An example - NZ tobacco/cigarette smokers pay an extra tax on any tobacco product which I believed was to help the District Health Boards look after smokers when/if their health deteriorates The same system could also work on Lime scooters. The more people use them, the more money goes into the ACC levy payers account/fund. Why did Lime not cease hiring out these scooters everywhere as soon as they became aware of the issue? One, maybe Two "Brakes Locking" issues should have been enough for LIME to hit the pause button until the serious issue was fixed and tested! Since Lime Scooters suddenly appeared in NZ I have been waiting for that breaded News Flash that a person has been killed while using a Lime Scooter! I hope I never see the day. Just a note, Its no use asking some users/riders of the Lime Scooters to slow down and ride responsibly some wouldn't give two hoots on how many old folk and kids they hit - some more than others think they're indispensable when riding a lime. Until its too late. sadly next is rip I'll try and make contact with someone at Lime and invite them to join and participate in these discussions.
  5. Sappho

    Lime Scooters

    Lime e-scooters off Auckland and Dunedin streets over wheel-locking issue Caroline Williams and Oliver Lewis20:07, Feb 22 2019 https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/110806313/lime-escooters-ordered-off-auckland-streets-following-safety-concerns > "We want to solve this. We want action." Totally agree, Ban the bloody things! Issue solved!
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    Lime Scooters

    Lime e-scooters ordered off Auckland streets over wheel-locking issue https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/110806313/lime-escooters-ordered-off-auckland-streets-following-safety-concerns And the ACC Levy Payers, that's you and I and most of New Zealand (compulsory levies on wages, fuel etc etc) pay for the treatment of the injuries and compensate those injured for lost earnings etc! I totally agree .... BAN LIME SCOOTERS!
  7. Sappho

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    This accforum has been very quite since the upgrade was completed. I'm thinking that the criminal activity that is still active over at the old accforum is frightening away those who are genuinely seeking help/advice. When people put two and two together they will realize that this forum is in no way associated with the other accforum. God bless
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  9. I reproduced the above Stuff story for a good reason. About 8 years ago a select group of ACCforum.org members were attacked on that forum by a then newly registered member. That individual is allegedly the same person featured in the following story published by the Herald. Blogger dodges prison over court suppression breaches, harassment campaigns 26 Jul, 2018 1:10pm Internet blogger Dermot Nottingham was sentenced today in the Auckland District Court. Photo / Sam Hurley New Zealand Herald court reporter. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12095711 The blogger's targets included business people, civil servants, and a former Member of Parliament. Photos were taken of them and their homes and the allegations published online falsely claimed drug abuse and corruption. Nottingham's targets included several innocent ACC claimants! Dermot Nottingham's profile on ACCforum dot org Joined: - 11-December 11 https://accforum.org/forums/index.php?/user/56902-lauda-finem/page__tab__aboutme Why did the NZ Police not investigate our complaints? ACC Claimants Safety Alert The following individuals are alleged to be responsible for the demise of the ACCforum.org and criminal harassment of ACC Claimants. David Butler, Alan Thomas, and Dermot Nottingham ACCforum dot org's David Butler aka Hardwired aka Snoopy David Butler - Image from David Butler/*Dermot Nottingham Skype video David Butler allegedly resides somewhere in or near Cheviot, just out side of Christchurch NZ. Warning: If you are an ACC, or Work & Income NZ client , Don't give David Butler any of your personal information! Dermot Gregory Nottingham - He is a convicted criminal. Warning: If you are an ACC, or Work & Income NZ client , Don't give Dermot Gregory Nottingham any of your personal information! Alan Gordon Thomas - He is a convicted criminal and alleged owner/moderator/administrator of ACCforum(doyt)org Wealthy consultant used ACC to boost wage by $238,000 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=115696 ACC bomb plot: Plans for van blast - 26 Jul, 2011 5:30am https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10740850 Warning: If you are an ACC, or Work & Income NZ client , Don't give Alan Gordon Thomas any of your personal information! This post was in the Public Domain but quickly moved to "Members only" section of ACCforum dot org I have chosen not to name the blog site which published Nottingham's posts because the offending content remains online.
  10. Women stand naked on Auckland's Karangahape Road in protest of police inaction after alleged assault Hannah Martin and Charlotte Carter13:13, Feb 09 2019 https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/110471269/women-stand-naked-on-aucklands-karangahape-road-in-protest-of-police-inaction-after-alleged-assault Jazmine Rose Phillips and Kyah Dove stood naked on a busy Auckland road as a protest after an alleged assault. The victim of an alleged sexually-motivated assault stood naked on Friday on Auckland's Karangahape Rd in protest, after she says police ignored her calls for help. Auckland performance artist Jazmine Rose Phillips stood hand-in-hand with her friend, Kyah Dove at the entrance to St Kevins' Arcade, covered in fake blood and with black tape over their mouths. Other women were handing out flyers to passersby, detailing the reasons for the protest. The flyer stated the women were physically assaulted by a man on Karangahape Rd on January 21. Phillips said a man began "doing sexual gestures" towards her and her partner after they had hugged on a street corner. She hit his car window, then he jumped out of his vehicle and struck her across the head, before trying to hit her partner, she said. This flier was handed to passersby by people at the scene. The pair got away and asked a passerby to stand with them while they phoned 111. They then gave police a description of the man who attacked them, along with his car registration number, Phillips said. On the phone, they were told there would be CCTV footage, and police would contact them that evening or follow up the next day. But they never heard from police, Phillips said. "The officer at the counter made [my partner] tell the story in a line in front of people, then after she told the story he said 'we can't do anything unless you both come in'," Phillips said. Phillips' partner left the police station in tears. "I walked away from that experience feeling really hurt, powerless and unsupported with a lot of shame and fear," Phillips said. She decided to protest on K Rd to process her trauma through art. "I kept hearing stories from all my female friends about their similar stories of sexual harassment and reporting rape, far more traumatic stories than mine and decided this is what I would do." She said the protest prompted an outpouring of gratitude from women who confessed they went through similar experiences and it was "amazing to not feel alone", but also awful to know that so many people shared her grief. A police sergeant approached the two women after they had been standing on the street for quite some time and gave Phillips his card, she said. "He said, 'when you're ready to talk I would like to further explore the case', but for me that was far too late, I wanted them to arrive when I made a 111 call. "Last week a 57-year-old women died in her home and Grace [Millane] was found in a bush near my house. What I would like to know is at what point do [police] start arriving after calls?" A bystander who was meeting friends for lunch came across the protest, which she said made her "pretty emotional". Lots of people stopped to look at the "amazingly brave" women and to take flyers, she said. "The women being there on a busy street, naked, covered in fake blood with the tape over their mouths was a pretty powerful statement," she said. "I almost cried." Auckland District Commander Superintendent Karyn Malthus said the matter was "being followed up urgently". Police were contacting the two women to discuss their concerns with them, she said. "We understand they have concerns about an incident where one of the women was assaulted in January, and the way it was handled. "We need to establish the exact circumstances around the incident and what happened when they reported it. "It is very concerning that these women feel let down by police and we are doing everything we can to establish exactly what happened, work with the victims and address their concerns." Stuff https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/110471269/women-stand-naked-on-aucklands-karangahape-road-in-protest-of-police-inaction-after-alleged-assault
  11. Found this on the Stuff website Auckland mother-of-two pushed her youngest out of the way before being hit by runaway trailer Kendall Hutt08:00, Feb 09 2019 https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/110459604/auckland-motheroftwo-pushed-her-youngest-out-of-the-way-before-being-hit-by-runaway-trailer This lady is very lucky to still be alive. Now she, her husband and their family have ACC in their lives. Maybe down the time line a way she may be so good and let us know how the ACC have and are treating her.
  12. Sappho

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    German chancellor Angela Merkel says "What am I to do? ACC in NZ have asked if I want Germany to join up to their by invitation only ACC's Injury cover declined Scams Affiliate Program during private talks with President Obama 馃槷
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    1] German chancellor Angela Merkel angrily shouts "Big Red Coloured Font auf dieser accforum.org Wieder ist es eine Kollision mit dem Top Ich trage Argh!" during private talks with President Obama Translated: "Big Red Coloured Font on that accforum.org again, it's clashing with the Top I'm wearing Arggggg!" 2] German chancellor Angela Merkel angrily shouts "Ich hatte ein Memorandum of Understanding mit David Butler (accforum.org's resident "Troll") f眉r ihn zu fuk Klappentext und tomcat, blurb, Mini, ntv and freefallnz 眉ber, aber er ist erneut nicht gelungen ist, Verschwendung von Zeit!" during private talks with President Obama Translated: "I had a Memorandum of Understanding with David Butler (accforum.org's resident "Troll") for him to fuk tomcat, blurb, mini, ntv and freefallnz over but he's failed yet again, waste of time!" 3] German chancellor Angela Merkel angrily shouts "Unabh盲ngig davon, f盲lschlicherweise der in irgendeiner angeblichen Takapuna Bombenanschlag ich immer noch f眉r beide Alan Thomas und David Butler zu tun haben ein Herz beteiligt angeklagt, aber ihre K枚pfe scheinen immer anschwellen dieses gro脽!" during private talks with President Obama 4] German chancellor Angela Merkel angrily shouts "Before I joined Jenny Craig, I was this wide!" during private talks with President Obama I hope that it brings a smile to everyone's faces.
  14. silverfox

    Lime Scooters

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/110333215/lime-admits-to-escooter-glitch-which-locks-up-wheels-at-speed-causing-excruciating-injuries Lime admits to e-scooter fault which locks up wheels at speed, causing 'excruciating' injuries Nicole Lawton16:15, Feb 07 2019 https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/110333215/lime-admits-to-escooter-glitch-which-locks-up-wheels-at-speed-causing-excruciating-injuries Like I said, Ban the bloody things!
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    Myodil / Arachnoiditis

    Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:31 AM View how ACC treats Myodil Dye victims. Video No Longer available http://youtube.com/embed/tX_eSwLAGXU?html5=1&fs=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen Some excellent investigative journalism from the 60 minutes team and Genevieve Westcot. This was shown on TV in 1996, and still today the ACC are continuing to make life difficult for Myodil victims. John Huntley, Carol Bampbell and a group of others speak about their experience Please note: It's an old video and hasn't converted too well to youtube format.
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    Myodil / Arachnoiditis

    Posted 10 April 2015 - 10:43 AM #4 gaffa09 路 路 Newbie 路 路 Group:Members 路 Posts:4 路 Joined:02-November 03 Posted 05 February 2006 - 03:57 PM This is what I have to date re my file and also what I have on file Myodil injected 6cc 1979 OP after.heard my own screems come back at me trouble ever since Myodil also injected 1987 6cc MR Doc Russel Worth Wellington { Scum bag,} For 6 months after coming out of hospital complained to him in what was happening In a confidence document to ACC,he called me a malingerer and so on, Through my Lawyer in the 1990s wrote to Russel Worth for full copies of my files , This was not carried out , Letter from Russell worth , statement , Have send files for vetting and after vetting you can have the rest., About same time found out that MR Russell Worth was on the board of the ACC medical team, {Ho dearie dearie me } Letter from state insurance re ACC Mr Huntleys claim Also in 2 separate letters to my lawyer has admitted that Myodil is a major problem but tried to pull the statue of limitations saying this was out of time ,Have copies , Symptoms, as was in hospitals , HAVE ALL WELLINGTON hospital notes Dizzy spells , massive headache, Blackouts , unbalanced , electric shocks through whole body , eye troubles , bad pain in neck like surgeon鈥檚 knife still there , middle spine now with trouble where needle went in can鈥檛 sleep and troubles with lower part of spine 12 years ago started with bowel, and bladder problems , Sex well that doesn't work well at all only sometimes if i am lucky In 3 weeks after coming out of hospital lost wife, now left with 5 children , Fell down steps twice due to blackout , dizzy spells on record more trouble .Muscle spasms Can鈥檛 peel potatoes can鈥檛 walk properly couldn鈥檛 go to toilet without massive pain , Taken off ACC April 1980 By Russel Worth who was instructed by ACC Mr Otterway . Doc Hunters report, dated 21st August 1981 covers all Doc Hornabrooks report made promises to invest ergate myodil { didn鈥檛 happen} ================================================== Years went by pain now is in legs, feet ,toes, fingers, arms, hospitalize for heart condition , stroke like symptoms, this all about and up too 1985 ,reinstated back on ACC april 1985 , Myelogram Napier 17th of July 1985 carried out by Mr Shipp the same one and only, that did the first one in 1979 under Russell Worth Residual myodil also found in base of spine Letters from Mr Gale Curtis , Orthopaedic surgeon Letter dated 1st sept 1988 In OCT 1987 MUA of spine 50% restricted Hospital Taumarunui 26 July 1989 heart attack systems dizziness, upper limbs feel weak , off balance, At this time now I feel as if my head won鈥檛 stay on my shoulders . Taumarunui Hospital date 31st Oct 1989 another fall damaged ribs Waikato Hospital dated 2 nov 1987 Diagnosis Chronic neck bilateral arm pain Waikato Hospital 21st Feb 1990 cervical instability to be accepted. Gale Curtis march 21st 1990 getting back to work is zero A two level anterior interbody arthrodesis could be undertaken Dr G.P. Miles approved by ACC damaging report Wakefield Medical centre Dr Graham Martin report covers above . 12 May report disability 30%, and comments about Russel Worth, {What a pack s... } Now in this time I have had another 6cc of myodil injected by gale Curtis Napier hospital and another Op= fusions of neck bone taken from hip Dr Ian Macpherson report out come of more surgery not good. 22nd June 1993 letter from Dr little my now GP, Myodil in brain after he sent me to Wanganui hospital thought I had tumours on brain... The real start of investigating myodil 1994 now come mood swings, irritable, angry, depressed very tired Progressive medical imaging dated 25th July 1994 marked degenerative changers c section and l section Letter to ACC from Russell Worth 27th July 1994 {go you } Bakes report 28th July 1994 back up spinal problems Massey University 1st August 1994 re now mental health good report for me . 4th of August refusal to supply Russell Worth info from my x-rays and files , Russells Worths report 22nd of August 1994 Admission of problems with myodil pulls the statute of limitations on us Damming report on both medical and myodil. Have copies Wanganui Hospital 12 th Sept Why is myodil used , And in other countries . 11th Oct wanganui hospital a limited CT scan preformed Question why a limited ? Paid for by ACC 20th Oct 1994 from Russell Worth in his words There is no doubt that myodil in the subarachnoid space causes Arachnoiditis. He goes on. Mr Huntleys problem is related to chronic pain in his arms This may be due to Mechanical instability or to arachnoiditis of the cervical spinal nerves 30th of dec 1994 visual fields test for eyes effected by myodil I failed tests 2 OP on eyes to follow paid for by ACC won锟絫 accept F. Howes FCS {SA }<FRCS {ED}> FRCOphth report is that good enough . 6th april 1995 bakers report 5 pages talks about mydil, and also spondylosis 5th of OCT Russell Worth to lawyer I have had the whole file vetted by Jenny Gibson of the medical protection society . 17th Oct 1995 Hornabrook report In report statement re myodil I will be happy to try and help clarify the issue { THEN HE WENT AND RETIRED) 5th March report by Mr F Howes eye surgeon this may be related to a possible arachnoiditis . Reports from Gil Newburn 1997 Grant gillett not a good report also lost x-rays also I cost his boss his job , . Then comes the asshole Dr Alastair K Wilson ACC assessor need I say more 30th Nov 1999 Whangarei hospital , Black out causing fracture of L1 Another black out 25th May 2001 hospital report split head open repaired and sent home Ho yes ACC wouldn鈥檛 pay for st johns ambulance, Have all documents 15th Oct 2001 Northland health pick up severe sloping sensorineural hearing loss in both ears . Gee that most come from the yelling ACC have done . In inquiring this may have stemmed from the days in the fire service . 23rd Aug 2002 from Vision care in short unusually lower blood pressure in head possible cause Myodil reports of arachnoiditis secondary to the use of myodil But my doctor is treating me for high blood pressure 26th of sept 2003 Burtons health care ACC wanted me to go to this what a waste of time and money By the way her bill was $1910.00 yet they cant pay me what I am entitled too. I also forgot to say that ACC spent big money on me investigating me back in the mid 1990s Nerve conduction tests which I have had also not carried out by world standards I have also over 3000 pages on Myodil in one lot alone Half this amount again from Aussie, some from Canada. Some from Dr Burton, How the hell do I put all this up on site , Letters from Glaxo, health Dept, In short ACC opinion is that it is all in my head , (Yeah right... 6cc of Myodil.) You judge , This is only some of the medical files I have I would be writing all day ,
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    Myodil / Arachnoiditis

    Followed by Posted 10 April 2015 - 10:40 AM Re: New Zealand Ministry of Health Report on Adhesive 03-Nov-07 13:38:35 House of Commons Hansard Debates for 19 May 2 ... Page3 of 3 be made and dealt in a non-legal manner where appropriate and that the rights of the individuals are protected for as long as necessary--in the circumstances described by my hon. Friend, for example. Mr. Collins: I have a couple of brief points to make. My hon. Friend the Member for Runoymede and Weybridge (Mr. Hammond) and the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston (Mr. Miller) have made some important remarks about new clause 7, which was tabled by the hon. Member for Hendon (Mr. Dismore). As I listened to the hon. Gentleman's speech, however, 1 found myself agreeing with him, which I have not done for three years: he made some good points. Although the hon. Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston referred to a constituency case that led him to one conclusion--it is always right to bear in mind that hard 19 May 2000: Column 587 cases can make bad law--I was reminded of a constituency case that leads me to believe that the points made by the hon. Member for Hendon need to be taken seriously, even if new clause 7 may not be perfect. My constituency case is directly relevant to determining whether the time limit should constitute an absolute three-year cut-off after a practitioner has left service or whether, as the hon. Member for Hendon said, the opportunities available in common law should apply enabling the victim to take action after the information has become available to them. More than 20 years ago, a chemical called Myodil was injected into my constituent's spine. Many of those who have had such an injection have subsequently suffered from adhe~ve arachnoiditis--a !errible condition that has rightly been described as involving all the pain of terminal cancer without the prospect of relief.,My constituent was not tolOtfiat that was t~ cause of her back problem for 20 years; successive medical practitioners said that it was associated with the condition of her spine. By obtaining copies of the medical notes, she found out that, as far back as the early 1970s, doctors had written that she was suffering from adhesive arachnoiditis, but for nearly two decades they did not tell her that that was the cause of the excruciating pain in which she has lived. As the hon. Member for Hendon said, someone in those circumstances would have the right to take legal action, but my constituent has repeatedly made it clear that she is not interested in seeking large sums of compensation. She realises that nothing can be done to end that appalling pain, which has completed destroyed her life and means that she can only walk with extreme difficulty. The live that she previously led as an active tennis player has been ended. She wants an investigation into what occurred to be undertaken and published, which would be a more proper role for the ombudsman. It would be difficult for an ombudsman's inquiry to go back over such a period, but I would not want us lightly to pass a law that would make that impossible in all circumstances.
  18. Two screen grabs of the earlier Myodil topic/thread on ACCforum NZ 11 pages and 31,953 views This topic is dedicated to our very good friend John Huntley & all other Myodil suffers. I will attempt to retrieve as much of what John has already published on the previews forum - Posted 30 March 2015 - 04:06 PM People that have been injected with Myodil Pantopaque causing arachnoiditis can contact Parliament something is starting up i believe There are other drugs that causing arachnoiditis as well as spinal trauma i believe barbara.stewart@parliament.govt.nz Posted 09 April 2015 - 05:13 PM New Zealand Ministry of Health Report on Adhesive Arachnioditis... 16-8-2002 The following report was commissioned by the New Zealand Ministry of Health. Ministry input into the development of the report was received from Mr Stephen Lungley and Dr Gillian Durham. Supplementary Observations by Charles V. Burton, M.D. Editor, Burton Report锟 This report, by Peter Day and associates at the Christchurch School of Medicine, prepared under the auspices of the New Zealand Health Technology Assessment Clearing House, is a landmark document. This is the first time, in a century of global medical practice, that any government agency, in any country, has commissioned a report on this important subject. The people of New Zealand, The New Zealand Ministry of Health and the Christchurch School of Medicine are to be complimented for having taken on this difficult challenge. Any unbiased review of the subject of arachnoiditis is a difficult task because of the paucity of prior hard science on the subject. Part of this problem has been a lack of awareness on the part of the medical profession in general as well as some of the medical reporting which has reflected hidden agendas and conflicts of interest not made apparent to their readers. The foundation for legitimate health care planning is well-performed incidence and prevalence studies and data. Such have never yet been developed for this disease entity. In a manner similar to that demonstrated by the tobacco industry, there has been an expenditure of many millions of dollars intended to obfuscate and provide "damage control" by the manufacturers of oil mydogram substances to thwart their being held responsible, in the legal arena, for their transgressions against the public. This is also an important part of the history of the arachnoiditis saga. Today, many of the leading medical journals require full disclosure, by authors, of any real or potential conflicts of interest- These requirements were not in place when the literature reviewed by Day and associates was published. Day and associates accurately point out the many limitations of the information they reviewed but also make the point that this information base "can produce valid results". How "rare" is clinically significant adhesive arachnoiditis? It has become clear that every person who has ever had a oil mydogram (i.e. lipiodol, pantopaque or myodil) has been left with permanent scarring of their pia-arachnoid membranes and some related impairment of cerebrospinal fluid production. From the 1940s to the 1980s there were approximately 1 million oil myetograms performed each year throughout the world. Scarring of the meninges secondary to exposure to these foreign body substances occurred in every single case. How many of these situations progressed to the stage of advanced "chronic adhesive arachnoiditis" is simply not known. The actual number of cases is which this inflammatory process ascended up the spine to the brain producing death is also not known. Sensitivity to inflammation is now known to be a complex process involving issues such as the individual's own immunotogic makeup. It is readily apparent that although prevalence data is lacking the numbers of those afflicted with meningeal scarring is quite high. What then is the incidence of those individuals from this group who have become disabled by this condition (referred to as:("clinically significant adhesive arachnoiditis"?) What is "rare"? Its meaning is different to each beholder. Long has estimated that 1 of those with adhesive arachnoiditis are "clinically significant". This editor believes that 5 is a more accurate estimate. Why is the prevalence of chronic adhesive arachnoiditis so high and clinically significant adhesive arachnoiditis so low? The answer to this enigma may very well lie in the remarkable ability of the human body to successfully deal with insult and injury if the progression of adversity is sufficiently slow. This is particularly true of the nervous system. This means that if the progression of an inflammatory process is sufficiently slow the nerves are then allowed to have the opportunity of surviving in their function despite progressive encapsulation with scar, progressive loss of vascular supply and progressive decrease in nutrition normally supplied by the surrounding cerebro-spinal fluid. This also means that if the nerves are not allowed to have the opportunity of accommodating they then signal their distress to the brain by transmitting constant nociceptive information. The nature of the resulting regional complex pain disorder is very often totally disabling to the individual. This also means that many who have the scarring and are asymptomatic exist in a precarious state. Additional insult can, in these cases, upset the balance producing decompensation and associated clinically evident problems. This type of situation is well known in medicine where large, benign, brain tumors progressively enlarge over many years and a minor incident (i.e. being struck in the head with a soccer ball) causes decompensation, unconsciousness, and even death. In the adhesive arachnoiditis cases the additional insult can be another myelogram, trauma such as a motor vehicle accident, or even an additional spinal surgery. It is interesting to observe that clinically significant "chronic adhesive arachnoiditis" may be infrequent, or even "rare", compared to the huge reservoir of existing cases. But it is also important to point out that even if these individuals appear normal they live with a "sword hanging over their heads" and are typically unaware of this liability. It is also important to recognize that even if there is no apparent clinical problem significant bodily injury has occurred. This is a situation similar to the "post-polio syndrome" where individuals afflicted with poliomyelitis at a eariy age loose many of their spinal neurons to the viral infection. Many individuals appear to recover completely and clinical problems may only become evident later in life when the paucity of remaining neurons is diminished further by the process of aging, are no longer able to meet the needs of the body. If it is a "rare" entity why should New Zealand, and the rest of the world, be concerned with "clinically significant adhesive arachnoiditis"? There are few disease processes more cruel and disabling than adhesive arachnoiditis when it is "clinically significant". The nature of the constant pain is such that it prevents NORMAL ACTIVITY, INTELLECTUAL PURSUITS and SLEEP. Adhesive arachnoiditis does not affect longevity and sufferers do not have the relative blessing of the limited life expectancy afforded by terminal cancer. These individuals are non-productive and require long-term supportive care. It would have been nice to see that with the phasing out of oil myelography in the early 1980s that the issue of adhesive arachnoiditis would have become something of only historic interest- This has not been the case- The advent of Epidural Steroid Injection as a Primary Treatment for Back Pain has created new populations of sufferers. How rare is this? Once again data on incidence and prevalence do not exist. In the United States the most reliable data on incidence are the number of physicians being brought to court by their patients. This sad state of affairs seems to reflect only ignorance on the part of physicians and their patients as epidural steroid administration can (and should be) a safe procedure performed with appropriate INFORMED CONSENT. What needs to be done? As correctly noted by Day and associates scientific study and further assessment of this disease entity are required. The most important role of this report, in my opinion, is being a first step in promoting awareness. In 1968 ago a physician wrote a letter to the editor of the New England Journal of Medicine noting that whenever he ate at a Chinese restaurant he would experience symptoms similar to those of a heart attack. Before long there were similar experiences shared by a multitude of other physicians. The entity became referred to as "the Chinese restaurant syndrome". Investigation finally determined that a hypet sensitivity to monosodhnn glutamate (NSG) and high salt content in the food appeared to be the etiology of this entity. Only with increased awareness will physicians and patients begin to suspect, and then identify adhesive arachnoiditis. It should not be that a popular treatment for low back pain be allowed to create devastating disease for the patient. How much is the prevention of this sad patient experience worth to a concerned health care system? The importance of awareness In 1926 French neurologists Foix and Alajouanine published the description of a pathologic entity producing adhesions, spinal cord degeneration and paralysis. We now appreciate that the Poix-AIajouanine syndrome probably represented a congenital arterio-venous malformation of the spinal cord associated with small intermittent bleeds producing local adhesive arachnoiditis, spinal cord restriction and impairment of blood supply producing mydomalacia, cavitation and neurologic problems. This appears to have been the first medical description of adhesive arachnoiditis. Is this something of only historic interest? Recently the editor has become aware of a number of cases in which epidural injections for the purpose of analgesia were used to assist in childbirth in young and previously healthy women. Following these injections the women developed severe, and in some cases permanent, neurologic problems. Subsequent imaging studies documented thoracic adhesive arachnoiditis. Although these were standard epidural injections the anesthesiologists involved have been accused of producing the problem. From reviewing the MRI studies I am convinced that these situations represented long-standing cases of clinically insignificant Fbix-Alajouanine syndrome activated by the epidural injection (probably the included epinephrine) and thus becoming "clinically significant". How many anesthesiologists know about the Foix-Alajouanine syndrome, adhesive arachnoiditis, or the dangers of injecting foreign body substances into the subarachnoid space? This knowledge is truly a "rare" situation. Appreciation to the New Zealand Ministry of Health The literature review by Day and associates is a really important contribution, it is also something, which should have been done a long time ago by Health agencies in the United States or England. New Zealand clearly has less resource available than these world neighbors. The fact that concerned citizens were able to reach the responsive ears of government to commission a valuable first-step technology assessment is exemplary and worthy of acknowledgement. The editor's highest compliments and personal appreciation are extended to all involved. And our highest compliments to you Doctor Burton for being there for us. .................................................................................................... Big Question here is... Why are these proceedures still being done, when it is clear the damage it does.? ACC has accepted some cases of Chemically Induced Adhesive Arachnoiditis, Under Med Mis-adventure/ Med Mis-hap... Gaffa09 clearly has this problem, I see see effects of, this on a regular basis. and it was he who has to date exposed and produced most of the info that has assisted others in their claims... SO WHY WILL ACC NOT ACCEPT HIS CLAIM IN THIS...??? They have "closed" his file on this... Read the rest of whats here on this subject.... From The British House of Commons. Posted 09 April 2015 - 05:20 PM Posted 05 February 2006 - 03:57 PM This is what I have to date re my file and also what I have on file Myodil injected 6cc 1979 OP after.heard my own screems come back at me trouble ever since Myodil also injected 1987 6cc MR Doc Russel Worth Wellington { Scum bag,} For 6 months after coming out of hospital complained to him in what was happening In a confidence document to ACC,he called me a malingerer and so on, Through my Lawyer in the 1990s wrote to Russel Worth for full copies of my files , This was not carried out , Letter from Russell worth , statement , Have send files for vetting and after vetting you can have the rest., About same time found out that MR Russell Worth was on the board of the ACC medical team, {Ho dearie dearie me } Letter from state insurance re ACC Mr Huntleys claim Also in 2 separate letters to my lawyer has admitted that Myodil is a major problem but tried to pull the statue of limitations saying this was out of time ,Have copies , Symptoms, as was in hospitals , HAVE ALL WELLINGTON hospital notes Dizzy spells , massive headache, Blackouts , unbalanced , electric shocks through whole body , eye troubles , bad pain in neck like surgeons knife still there , middle spine now with trouble where needle went in can锟絫 sleep and troubles with lower part of spine 12 years ago started with bowel, and bladder problems , Sex well that doesn't work well at all only some times if i am lucky In 3 weeks after coming out of hospital lost wife, now left with 5 children , Fell down steps twice due to blackout , dizzy spells on record more trouble .Muscle spasms Can锟絫 peel potatoes can锟絫 walk properly couldn锟絫 go to toilet with out massive pain , Taken off ACC April 1980 By Russel Worth who was instructed by ACC Mr Otterway . Doc Hunters report, dated 21st August 1981 covers all Doc Hornabrooks report made promises to invest ergate myodil { didn锟絫 happen} ================================================== Years went by pain now is in legs, feet ,toes, fingers, arms, hospitalize for heart condition , stroke like symptoms, this all about and up too 1985 ,reinstated back on ACC april 1985 , Myelogram napier 17th of July 1985 carried out by Mr Shipp the same one and only, that did the first one in 1979 under Russell Worth Residual myodil also found in base of spine Letters from Mr Gale Curtis , Orthopaedic surgeon Letter dated 1st sept 1988 In OCT 1987 MUA of spine 50% restricted Hospital Taumarunui 26 July 1989 heart attack systems dizziness, upper limbs feel weak , off balance, At this time now I feel as if my head won锟絫 stay on my shoulders . Taumarunui Hospital date 31st Oct 1989 another fall damaged ribs Waikato Hospital dated 2 nov 1987 Diagnosis Chronic neck bilateral arm pain Waikato Hospital 21st Feb 1990 cervical instability to be accepted. Gale Curtis march 21st 1990 getting back to work is zero A two level anterior interbody arthrodesis could be undertaken Dr G.P. Miles approved by ACC damaging report Wakefield Medical centre Dr Graham Martin report covers above . 12 May report disability 30%, and comments about Russel Worth, {What a pack s... } Now in this time I have had another 6cc of myodil injected by gale Curtis Napier hospital and another Op= fusions of neck bone taken from hip Dr Ian Macpherson report out come of more surgery not good. 22nd June 1993 letter from Dr little my now GP, Myodil in brain after he sent me to Wanganui hospital thought I had tumours on brain... The real start of investigating myodil 1994 now come mood swings, irritable, angry, depressed very tired Progressive medical imaging dated 25th July 1994 marked degenerative changers c section and l section Letter to ACC from russell Worth 27th July 1994 {go you } Bakes report 28th July 1994 back up spinal problems Massey University 1st August 1994 re now mental health good report for me . 4th of August refusal to supply Russell Worth info from my x-rays and files , Russells Worths report 22nd of August 1994 Admission of problems with myodil pulls the statute of limitations on us Damming report on both medical and myodil. Have copies Wanganui Hospital 12 th Sept Why is myodil used , And in other countries . 11th Oct wanganui hospital a limited CT scan preformed Question why a limited ? Paid for by ACC 20th Oct 1994 from Russell Worth in his words There is no doubt that myodil in the subarachnoid space causes Arachnoiditis. He goes on. Mr Huntleys problem is related to chronic pain in his arms This may be due to Mechanical instability or to arachnoiditis of the cervical spinal nerves 30th of dec 1994 visual fields test for eyes effected by myodil I failed tests 2 OP on eyes to follow paid for by ACC won锟絫 accept F. Howes FCS {SA }<FRCS {ED}> FRCOphth report is that good enough . 6th april 1995 bakers report 5 pages talks about mydil, and also spondylosis 5th of OCT Russell Worth to lawyer I have had the whole file vetted by Jenny Gibson of the medical protection society . 17th Oct 1995 Hornabrook report In report statement re myodil I will be happy to try and help clarify the issue { THEN HE WENT AND RETIRED) 5th March report by Mr F Howes eye surgeon this may be related to a possible arachnoiditis . Reports from Gil Newburn 1997 Grant gillett not a good report also lost x-rays also I cost his boss his job , . Then comes the asshole Dr Alastair K Wilson ACC assessor need I say more 30th Nov 1999 Whangarei hospital , Black out causing fracture of L1 Another black out 25th May 2001 hospital report split head open repaired and sent home Ho yes ACC wouldn锟絫 pay for st johns ambulance, Have all documents 15th Oct 2001 Northland health pick up severe sloping sensorineural hearing loss in both ears . Gee that most come from the yelling ACC have done . In inquiring this may have stemmed from the days in the fire service . 23rd Aug 2002 from Vision care in short unusually lower blood pressure in head possible cause Myodil reports of arachnoiditis secondary to the use of myodil But my doctor is treating me for high blood pressure 26th of sept 2003 Burtons health care ACC wanted me to go to this what a waste of time and money By the way her bill was $1910.00 yet they cant pay me what I am entitled too. I also forgot to say that ACC spent big money on me investigating me back in the mid 1990s Nerve conduction tests which I have had also not carried out by world standards I have also over 3000 pages on Myodil in one lot alone Half this amount again from Aussie, some from Canada. Some from Dr Burton, How the hell do I put all this up on site , Letters from Glaxo, health Dept, In short ACC opinion is that it is all in my head , (Yeah right... 6cc of Myodil.) You judge , This is only some of the medical files I have I would be writing all day , vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv today i have had to live with them all and adjust to them the pain is what gets me , unbalanced dizzy spells electric shocks and my head out in space ====================================================================================
  19. Reproduced from previous ACCforum.nz Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:10 PM Originally from: https://www.newsroom.co.nz https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/10/03/51308/independence-of-acc-disputes-entity-questioned Disputes agency FairWay Resolution was originally ACC operated but is now owned by staff. Photo: Lynn Grieveson Independence of ACC disputes entity questioned A company set up by the Government to handle ACC disputes is now owned by staff. But can FairWay Resolution act impartially when those employed have a financial interest in its performance, and why was it not put up for tender? Shane Cowlishaw reports. An ACC disputes service that was sold by the Crown without consultation is still operating under a conflict of interest, lawyers say. FairWay Resolution Ltd was formed in 1999 by ACC to handle the first step of disputes. It morphed into an independent Crown entity in 2011. Following objections by ACC claimants about the fairness of the system a review was ordered, headed up by Miriam Dean QC. It was heavily critical of the sector and, following the release of the report, FairWay was sold to an employee trust for $6.5 million in July in a move to improve its independence. Upon its sale, FairWay鈥檚 oversight under the Official Information Act was removed as it then became a private entity. The bulk of FairWay鈥檚 earnings come from its contract with ACC, which includes various KPI and performance clauses. Several lawyers spoken to with expertise in the area were alarmed and worried at the potential conflict of interest that could develop with staff who had a financial interest in the company making decisions that were supposed to be independent. That potential conflict has been highlighted in a transcript of a phone conversation between an ACC case manager and a FairWay employee that was provided to Newsroom. While discussing a case, the pair talk about the lawyer involved, mentioning he has likely requested a conciliation meeting "so he gets paid鈥 and bemoaning the fact the lawyer will likely arrive armed with 鈥渁 file the size of a house鈥 and 鈥渉undreds of pages of waffle鈥. Wellington-based John Miller said it was completely inappropriate for one side to be having a conversation without the other being informed. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 think you should talk to any one of the parties without the other party there, even if you have a hearing you should all leave together rather than linger around to have a chat. It鈥檚 even more worrying if they鈥檙e having conversations on the phone with case managers.鈥 The original problem was that FairWay was directly owned by ACC, but as far as he could tell there were still questions about how reliant the company was on the relationship, Miller said. 鈥淲hat鈥檚 that French phrase? The more things change the more things stay the same. 鈥淚t was a surprise, fait accompli. You think 鈥極h, if they鈥檙e selling it to the staff on one level it鈥檚 a good thing to do, on the other level they鈥檝e got a real interest in decision-making and profits鈥.鈥 Dunedin barrister Warren Forster, who has been an outspoken voice on ACC issues, said the ownership of the company was beside the point. It was far simpler for FairWay if decisions were favourable towards ACC. FairWay鈥檚 contract with ACC required it to provide monthly reports on its decision-making and its compliance with key performance indicators, which was the main concern about the organisation鈥檚 independence, he said. 鈥淭he real issue is the financial dependence and secrecy created by the contractual relationship, which put the balance of power clearly in ACC鈥檚 favour. 鈥淚t鈥檚 the contract that needed to change, not whether the Minister owns the company.鈥 Newsroom has also spoken to an ex-FairWay reviewer who said the company was independent 鈥渋n name only鈥. The contract between the two companies meant it was far simpler for FairWay if decisions were favourable towards ACC. 鈥淚t鈥檚 flawed in terms of its sole client being ACC and it鈥檚 beholden to that client, who represents one side of everything.鈥 Why no tender? Usually, when a Crown entity is sold a tender process is initiated to ensure the best price is received and any cloud of conflict is removed. But the FairWay sale was confirmed without a tender following 鈥渋ndependent advice鈥 on the available options being provided to the ACC and Finance Ministers. The QC review followed a separate report and recommendation by the United Nations Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, which criticised the Government for a lack of consultation with people with injuries or disabilities. Critics have noted that without a tender or consultation on the sale of FairWay, those people were again shut out of having a say on an issue directly affecting them. ACC Minister Michael Woodhouse said he asked about the lack of a tender process and received advice that it was deemed unnecessary and would have achieved nothing. FairWay was a small organisation with high risks to its revenue because it relied on contracts with ACC and the Ministry of Justice, plus the company鈥檚 leadership team had approached with an offer to buy, he said. 鈥淢y concern was to ensure the price was right on behalf of the taxpayer and the risks were managed in an efficient way and Treasury gave us the advice that said 鈥榊ep, we could go out to tender, it could take a lot longer, it would be more costly and we鈥檇 be no better off鈥 so the Minister of Finance and I were satisfied that that question had been answered quite clearly.鈥 (The then) ACC Minister Michael Woodhouse said he was satisfied the FairWay sale did not need to go through a tender process. Photo: Lynn Grieveson Regarding concerns about the company鈥檚 independence, Woodhouse said the Government had listened to concerns about ownership and that was why it was no longer owned by the Crown. 鈥淚f you were to suggest FairWay might make a different decision because otherwise ACC could get grumpy with them has no basis, there鈥檚 really no substance to suggesting that鈥檚 the case.鈥 When asked if moving ACC disputes within the judiciary would alleviate perceived concerns about independence he said it would not, as the judiciary were 鈥渘ot volunteers鈥. There was always going to be a tension in the system and if it moved back under the umbrella of the Crown that would again raise the initial complaint of Government ownership, he said. True independence would be impossible to achieve 鈥渦nless you want people to be not paid for their services," Woodhouse said. "The judiciary is no different in that sense, they鈥檙e being paid for their services as well.鈥 FairWay & ACC respond Following the QC review, FairWay chief executive Greg Pollock resigned from his position. He was replaced on an acting basis by Rhys West, who had his role confirmed permanently following the sale. West told Newsroom that questions about the independence of the company had centred around its ownership by the Crown and they had been answered by the sale to staff, who took their reputation seriously. 鈥淔or our ACC work, the change supports the changes recommended by Miriam Dean in an independent review ... and reinforces its independence. 鈥淭here鈥檚 not an employee within FairWay that has KPIs in relation to their decisions, that鈥檚 a really, really important thing to understand. The KPIs we have are about ensuring that when people want to use the service they can access the service.鈥 Staff did not own individual shares in FairWay, West said. Instead, they had the opportunity to become involved in a profit share arrangement with the Trust that had purchased the company through debt. How much they were eligible for was determined by an employee鈥檚 remuneration, tenure, and performance rating. Regarding the phone transcript, West said he could not comment as he had not had enough time to consider it. In a statement, ACC media spokesman Chris Ritchie said FairWay was viewed as an independent company providing an independent service. Regarding the phone transcript, Ritchie said ACC expected staff to be professional at all times and would be 鈥渧ery disappointed鈥 to hear reports of employees not meeting that standard. Reproduced from: https://web.archive.org/web/20180126232749/https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/10/03/51308/independence-of-acc-disputes-entity-questioned
  20. Reproduced from the previous ACCforum NZ Posted by Popeye , Oct 05 2017 01:23 PM Originally from: https://www.stuff.co.nz Bogus-named case managers demeaning, ACC claimants say CATE BROUGHTON Last updated 10:51, October 5 2017 https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/97150377/bogus-case-managers-demeaning-acc-claimants-say Blenheim man Peter Firmin is one of at least 212 ACC claimants assigned a case manager with a bogus name. The ex-soldier was badly injured during a military training exercise in a Malaysian jungle in 1986 at the age of 23. A delay in hospital treatment resulted in permanent damage to his spine. SCOTT HAMMOND/STUFF Blenheim man Peter Firmin says he poses no risk to ACC staff. He started receiving ACC compensation payments in 1988 but maintained the amount was incorrect for 15 years before a judge found in his favour in 2014. Read the full story here - https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/97150377/bogus-case-managers-demeaning-acc-claimants-say
  21. Recovered from previous ACCforum NZ ACC causing 'unacceptable harm' to many rejected, legitimate claimants each year, research finds Started by Wing nut , Oct 05 2017 02:56 PM ACC causing 'unacceptable harm' to many rejected, legitimate claimants each year, research finds CECILE MEIER Last updated 11:51, May 23 2017 Hundreds of thousands of injured Kiwis are declined cover each year by ACC, causing "unacceptable harm" to many legitimate claimants, according to new research. Injured people who have been denied cover "find themselves pitted against a huge, billion-dollar specialist Crown agency", the Law Foundation and University of Otago-backed report said. The report, published on Tuesday, calls for the establishment of a personal injury commissioner to help people navigate the Accident Compensation Corporation's (ACC) "incredibly complex and difficult" complaints process. read the full story at Stuff http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92845937/acc-causing-unacceptable-harm-to-many-rejected-legitimate-claimants-each-year-research-finds
  22. Sappho

    Sensitive Claim

    You will need to visit the Cassandra Complex website. www.cassandracomplex.org.nz They are more qualified and knowledgeable to advise you with the process and the help/support the ACC give to Sensitive Claims clients. You could also contact the appropriate Helpline, take a look through these contacts http://www.accforum.nz/index.php?/nz-247-helplines/ Cheers
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    Sensitive Claim

    Can Acc help me with Drug and Alcohol residential rehabilitation? I suffered traumatic childhood sexual abuse. I started using drugs at 13. Desperately need some intensive treatment for my behaviors and addiction. I feel it's not going to end well soon.
  24. This is the Code of Claimants Rights Right 1 You have the right to be treated with dignity and respect. (a) We will treat you with dignity and respect. (b) We will treat you with honesty and courtesy. (c) We will recognise that you may be under physical, emotional, social, or financial strain. Right 2 You have the right to be treated fairly, and to have your views considered. (a) We will treat you fairly. (b) We will listen to you and consider your views. (c) We will take into account, and be responsive to, any impairment you may have. Right 3 You have the right to have your culture, values, and beliefs respected. (a) We will be respectful of, and responsive to, the culture, values, and beliefs of M膩ori. (b) We will be respectful of, and responsive to, all cultures, values, and beliefs. Right 4 You have the right to a support person or persons. (a) We will welcome you and your support person(s) provided that the safety of all involved can be assured. Right 5 You have the right to effective communication. (a) We will communicate with you openly, honestly, and effectively. (b) We will respond to your questions and requests in a timely manner. (c) We will provide you with an interpreter when necessary and reasonably practicable. (d) We will provide information in a form which you can access, and in a timely manner. Right 6 You have the right to be fully informed. (a) We will provide information on how to make a claim for cover and entitlements. (b) We will keep you fully informed. (c) We will provide you with full and correct information about your claim, entitlements, obligations, and responsibilities. (d) We will inform you if your entitlements change. (e) We will give you information about how we provide services, and how to access them. (f) We will discuss expected time frames with you. (g) We will inform you of your review and appeal rights under the Act. Right 7 You have the right to have your privacy respected. (a) We will respect your privacy. (b We will comply with all relevant legislation relating to privacy. (c) We will give you access to your information, in accordance with legislation. Right 8 You have the right to complain. (a) We will work with you to address problems and concerns. (b We will inform you about options available for resolving problems and concerns. (c) We will inform you about the complaints process, and the normal time frames for dealing with complaints.
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    Welcome!

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    Computer Zen

    Computer Zen In Japan, they have replaced the impersonal and unhelpful Microsoft error messages with Haiku poetry messages. Haiku poetry has strict construction rules - each poem has only 17 syllables; 5 syllables in the first, 7 in the second, 5 in the third. They are used to communicate a timeless message, often achieving a wistful, yearning and powerful insight through extreme brevity. Here are 15 actual error messages from Japan that are the essence of Zen: ------------------------------------------- Your file was so big. It might be very useful. But now it is gone. ------------------------------------------- The Web site you seek Cannot be located, but Countless more exist. -------------------------------------------- Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return. ----------------------------------------------- Program aborting: Close all that you have worked on. You ask far too much. ------------------------------------------------ Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams. -------------------------------------------------- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. --------------------------------------------------- First snow, then silence. This thousand-dollar screen dies So beautifully. --------------------------------------------------- With searching comes loss And the presence of absence: "My Novel" not found. -------------------------------------------------- The Tao that is seen Is not the true Tao- until You bring fresh toner. -------------------------------------------------- Stay the patient course. Of little worth is your ire. The network is down. --------------------------------------------------- A crash reduces Your expensive computer To a simple stone. -------------------------------------------------- Three things are certain: Death, taxes and lost data. Guess which has occurred. --------------------------------------------------- You step in the stream, But the water has moved on. This page is not here. --------------------------------------------------- Having been erased, The document you're seeking Must now be retyped. --------------------------------------------------- Serious error. All shortcuts have disappeared. Screen. Mind. Both are blank. --------------------------------------------------- Aren't these better than "your computer has performed an illegal operation? -------> Don't ya just love it? Found them on the web a few years ago, thought I would share them with you all. Enjoy. Retrieved from the old version of ACCforum.nz
  27. Is it true that we shouldn't trust the ACC?
  28. Sappho

    Great advice

    That's really great advice. Thanks for sharing that with us. Here is something I grabbed off a website somewhere long time ago. Who-ever thought of it and made it is a very clever person. Who-ever that may be, Thank you for sharing it.
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